Episode Two: From Power to Influence with Yuen Yung

In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy sits down with Yuen Yung, co-founder and managing partner of Hal Bar Partners, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership under pressure and the subtle ways the shadow shows up over time. Drawing from a career that spans real estate, entrepreneurship, and high-stakes decision-making, Yuen reflects on how power, control, and ego can quietly creep into leadership, especially during seasons of growth and success.

Together, they explore situational leadership, the cost of isolation, and why maturity often reshapes how the Upside Down looks at different stages of life. Yuen shares candid insights on the moments that pulled him off course, the relationships that helped bring him back, and what it means to lead from influence rather than force. The conversation closes with practical wisdom for leaders who feel stuck in the dark and a clear reminder that leadership, at its best, is about making things better one small choice at a time.